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headline should actually be oklahoma continues to be shitty transphobes but i didnt want to editorialize!

anyway aew should do a mega event with wwe and impact for trans lifeline in oklahoma with nyla main eventing for the womens title because fuck bigots and celebrate queer wrestlers all night

sorry but this just made me so mad and it should be bigger news

also a big fuck you to the oklahoma commission for purposely misgendering nyla

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[–] Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Let me be very clear: Trans rights are human rights. Any transphobic comments will result in a temporary ban at minimum.

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

Fuck Oklahoma. Trans rights are human rights.

Solidarity forever.

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There is no way these ENTERTAINMENT matches are officially sanctioned and governed by any state body… right??

[–] siv9939@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 months ago

From what I remember hearing some state athletic commissions got involved in pro wrestling to stop blading and to make sure fans were safe. This is the best article I could find about it, but it doesn't really go into the history.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I know they used to be heavily sanctioned, and had the head of the sports commission down their throats a lot. They needed official time keepers, commission trained refs, etc.

I think they've eased up a lot. But you have to remember that back in the 40s-70s etc, wrestling was an exhibition, not a competition. So they got away with pre determined winners and such. They were essentially real life tough guys who could beat the snot out of each other if they so chose. Now they're fancy ballet dancers

[–] Brain@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Nyla's tweet on this is hilarious...

WHO THE FUCK WAS IT?!! Don’t worry Oklahoma I’ll find the dastardly Transgender that * checks notes * entertained fans!!! HOW DARE THEY MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY?!!!

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago

Never change Nyla you glorious woman.

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

LMAO clowns.

[–] kessleragain@beehaw.org 12 points 6 months ago

Fuck that commission.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Firstly: Fuck Oklahoma, all my homies hate Oklahoma.

Second: Ya know TK has an opportunity to do something reaaal damn funny here πŸ‘€. I'm thinking Dynamite heads back to Oklahoma with a special main event: Nyla Rose vs Dark Sheik vs Kidd Bandit vs Max the Impaler.

[–] Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck Oklahoma, bring that to Kentucky! I'll burn a sick day to see that match in person!

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck it, add Marko Stunt and Effy to the match and piss off all the haters.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago
[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the whole pretext for banning trans athletes that they supposedly have an unfair advantage over cis athletes? Doesn't that entire justification fall apart when the matches are scripted and pre-determined? What possible justification could there be for this other than bigotry?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

to be fair this is the same oklahoma that forced mack beggs, a trans man, to wrestle on the woman's team and then got mad and used photos of him wrestling women as an attack against trans women...

there's not a lot of logic to transphobia

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh yeah, I remember that. A lot of MAGA chuds kept sharing that photo in Twitter thinking he was a trans woman and saying shit like, "does this seem fair?!?!" without realizing they were taking his side.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Seems like something JR should try to get fixed.

I really want to make a this is neither Bommer nor Sooner joke, but this is exactly Boomer and Sooner

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Nyla: "DAMNIT OKLAHOMA!!! You made me a babyface now!!!! πŸ˜‘πŸ˜‘πŸ˜‘ I wanna do evil things with my evil friends but now I can’t 😀"

Danhausen on Twitter: "Nyla rocks. Transphobia does not. Bunch of loser fucks."

Oklahoma you just made Danhausen swearhausen for fucks sake.

Walker Stewart, lead NJPW English commentator's on Oklahoma State Athletic Commission:

"Here's a fun rant about the Oklahoma State Athletic Commission knowing full and well they can't come after me the way they've come after my friends for various things recently. #NotAWrestler

Always wanted to see Oklahoma wrestling in the spotlight, but its archaic rules such as those mentioned in this statement that won't allow this to be the case.

The Oklahoma Athletic Commission is a cancer of the wrestling scene in Oklahoma. A money grab that does nothing to protect wrestlers or protect the industry.

They require a blood test, a physical, and $30 every year to wrestle, but do nothing regarding people faking their blood tests or even faking licenses when checked at events. Thus, making them inherently useless.

OSAC takes a percentage of the gate, which many promoters use as an excuse for why they can't pay people decently (and whether that's the reason why or not, there is no need to take a percentage of the house if you're set in place to facilitate a healthy scene).

And of course, the fact that the OSAC has no jurisdiction over Native American land... and Oklahoma heavily consists of Native land (pic related in replies). Yet, I consistently see commissioners appearing in Tulsa, McAlester, Ardmore, etc. What's up with that?

Finally, inherently sexist laws have led to wrestlers being suspended for short sequences of intergender action within the last year. Now, transphobic laws leading to this commission meeting about a transgender wrestler who competes all across the country, yet in Oklahoma, it's a subject of litigation?

I'm in full support of a commission done right. I'm not an anarchist. A governing body that protects the industry and sets high standards for the community is welcomed, but one with archaic and prejudiced rules such as those mentioned shouldn't exist. Dismantle it (like they did in Arkansas after a racketeering lawsuit) or reform it (which seems unlikely based one the political climate in this state).

I don't believe reform/dissolution of the OSAC would improve the pro wrestling scene in Oklahoma tenfold. There is a lack of proper training, there is a lack of etiquette, there are people who want to try and rule over talent and areas with an iron thumb like the territory days...

But let's start with not banning transgender athletes in a pre-determined, sports-based, theatrical performance, and see where we go from there.

End rant."

[–] Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

TL:DR is OSAC is a corrupt entity purely in place to leech off of wrestling companies and to marginalize women and transgendered people.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago

As is tradition!

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I did a brief stint as a mod for r/squaredcircle pre punk AEW and man the shit people would say about her was utterly disgusting, I learnt a whole plethora of ways to be derogatory towards trans people, some of these fans are horrible people, was fun banning them and watching them bitch in modmail.

[–] Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Heh.

Also, yeah, seems for every great user over at r/sc, there were 3 real jerks.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

And every 2 of those 3 jerks were 2 year old accounts with 0 karma and 0 posts/comments bought for $15 lmao.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah I can imagine. We're lucky we haven't had that kinda traffic here yet. 1-2 ornery people and 1-2 serial downvoters at most lol.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

nyla is the only account i miss from twitter

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck transphobes. All they do is make the world fucking worse.

Love that they gave AEW a "warning" on this shit. Like they are going to do shit to AEW except maybe make them think twice about running a show in Oklahoma again.

Also, love the fact that the commission defines gender based on chromosomes. How do they know what chromosomes Nyla has? Did they work up her genome? Maybe she's XXY or something, they don't know.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just Oklahoma playing the long-game in the 'Why Does No One Ever Take Us Seriously As A State" competition. Gotta give Alabama, Florida and Mississippi something to think about now-and-then lmao.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"So... Oklahoma is a crazy place. You know, they call it the Sooner state. Frankly I'd sooner be in any other state." - Chandler Bing

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

RIP Matthew Perry πŸ˜”

[–] Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Shit, dude, I completely forgot he passed away like 6 months ago. Guess I better binge Fallout again, since he can't.

[–] GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've been itching to install 3 or NV again for like...a year but I know there needs to be heavy modding done to make them optimal now-a-days and my ADHD already sits here modding Sims 4, Dwarf Fortress, Rimworld, Deep Rock Galactic, Stellaris, Simcity 4 and Stardew valley without any of the spoons available to fit another game in and I've watched my wife yesterday try to help a friend get NV up and running and after 90 mins I stopped watching and went to play TF2 instead lmao.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

I've got OpenMW going with 500 and some odd mods installed!

Around here, we have a little joke...

Why is it always windy in Kansas? Because Nebraska blows and Oklahoma sucks.

Sadly, I can't entirely take the high road on this, since Kansas passed one of those stupid "protect women's sports" laws last year (over the governor's veto), so we're pretty much in the same fucking boat. Can't wait until this latest moral panic goes away.