The fix is simple, just raise taxes! I pay enough in taxes, I pay for my fair share. I would rather end social security and have a private retirement account. Increasing my taxes, once again just shows what a scam it is.

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    8 months ago

    The program is not mismanaged.

    If It was managed properly, they’d have the funds. They don’t because it’s been mismanaged.

    Increasing taxes isn’t a viable solution. We are already heavily taxed. I’d like to keep some of my money for myself.

    How much more are you willing to pay to prop the system up? Another 6%?

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      If It was managed properly, they’d have the funds.

      First, they do have the funds. The shortfall is a future projection. Second, this assumption is incorrect. There are a variety of factors that will affect the future income and cost of the program. Retirement of Baby Boomers and lower birth rates are two examples.

      Increasing taxes isn’t a viable solution.

      When combined with other proposals, it is a viable solution in that it solves the problem of the shortfall.

      We are already heavily taxed.

      This is a matter of opinion.

      I’d like to keep some of my money for myself.

      I don’t know your personal situation but virtually all Americans keep the lion’s share of their money when it comes to taxation.

      How much more are you willing to pay to prop the system up? Another 6%?

      I personally would be willing to pay more taxes for more services, including social security, universal healthcare, and others.

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        8 months ago

        This is a matter of opinion.

        I pay a little over 50% of my income in taxes. That’s excessive. It’s unfair to ask the top 5% to continually pick up for the other 95%

        And how much more would you like to pay? Half your income? I don’t. I want a smaller government. Not a nanny state.

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          I pay a little over 50% of my income in taxes.

          Again, I don’t know your personal situation, but the top federal income tax bracket is 37% for individuals making over $500k. States with the highest income tax get up to 10% for over $5 million (New York) or 12% for over $12.3 million (California). And, of course, there are other taxes like capital gains. My point is, those paying over 50% in taxes are generally well above the median income, which is $40k for individuals and $75k for households.

          It’s unfair to ask the top 5% to continually pick up for the other 95%

          Again, this is an opinion and I would also like to point out that to be in the top 5% someone has to make $335k or more per year or have a net worth of ~$1 million or more. And those numbers still don’t generally put someone in the 50% tax range.

          And how much more would you like to pay? Half your income?

          If I, or the majority of other Americans, paid half our income, we would be in dire straights. It would be near impossible for an individual to have adequate housing, food, and transportation just about anywhere in the country for $20k per year (or $37.5k for a household). However, someone can live very comfortably just about anywhere in the country for $315k per year (37% of $500k).

          I want a smaller government. Not a nanny state.

          This is not currently an option. Neither Republicans or Democrats, Trump or Biden, are offering a meaningfully smaller government. In fact, depending on parameters, this hasn’t been an option for the last hundred years.

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            8 months ago

            Again, I don’t know your personal situation, but the top federal income tax bracket is 37% for individuals making over $500k

            You also have to include social security and Medicare. They are a tax as well. We have property taxes as well. The list of taxes we have is insane. State is another 10%.

            From my base pay of 17k a month. I end up with a little under 8k after taxes.

            If I, or the majority of other Americans, paid half our income, we would be in dire straights

            The stop asking me to do it.

            Neither Republicans

            Maybe you missed the platform most candidates were running on. It was the elimination of several government agencies. To me that’s a good start. The budget should also be tied to revenue. We need to balance the budget where expenditures do not exceed revenue.

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              The list of taxes we have is insane.

              We can go on and on about this forever. Your opinion is that taxes are too high.

              The stop asking me to do it.

              To be clear, your position is you would rather many Americans be destitute so that you would pay fewer taxes.

              Maybe you missed the platform most candidates were running on. It was the elimination of several government agencies. To me that’s a good start. The budget should also be tied to revenue. We need to balance the budget where expenditures do not exceed revenue.

              Trump himself stated, “I will never do anything that will jeopardize or hurt Social Security or Medicare.” He also added ~$8 trillion to the national debt in his previous term. Additionally, he said he would balance the budget prior to his first term and did not do it.

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                To be clear, your position is you would rather many Americans be destitute so that you would pay fewer taxes

                We need to spend less. It’s not that complicated. Our spending is out of control. The only required expenditure is the military.

                Trump has said he will eliminate the department of education. That’s a first step in making the government smaller.

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                  We need to spend less. It’s not that complicated. Our spending is out of control. The only required expenditure is the military.

                  Spending less is very achievable but your initial post and claims were about cutting social security specifically. And if you’re saying we should only spend on military, that means cutting approximately 74% of federal spending and function. This is a deeply unpopular position that is not supported by either major political party, which makes it extremely unlikely to happen.

                  Trump has said he will eliminate the department of education. That’s a first step in making the government smaller.

                  Nevertheless, he did no such thing when he had the opportunity in his first term. Further, he has stated he would protect some of the largest expenditures in the budget.

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                    Spending less is very achievable but your initial post and claims were about cutting social security specifically

                    It’s a good place to start. It keeps the poor, poor and causes our budgets to continue to grow.

                    Nevertheless, he did no such thing when he had the opportunity in his first term

                    The deficit spending was declining until Covid. Are you suggesting we shouldn’t have funded anything for Covid ? That’s the majority of the expense