This might just be for government computers, not the entire country - see https://www.ft.com/content/7bf0f79b-dea7-49fa-8253-f678d5acd64a
Still, the overall direction and intent is clear.
understandible given how the Americans are treating Huawei.
I mean, we do the same thing, for the same reasons, with our government and defense procurement orders these days. This isn’t that weird. It’s only weird in that they’re clearly cutting themselves off from the best high-volume x86 CPU manufacturers that currently exist, but aside from that, the geopolitical and strategic calculus adds up.
Gee, now it makes me think there’s an ulterior motive to conquering Taiwan…
Yes, all of the most advanced chip making factories are in Taiwan. It’s the biggest reason that the US passed the CHIPS act and also why there is so much geopolitical tension around Taiwan.
Why did you think there was so much focus on Taiwan? Boba is great and all, but surely it doesn’t merit the protection of the US Navy. 😁
Yes, all of the most advanced chip making factories are in Taiwan.
Intel is back in the game with PowerVia after the endless blunder that was 10nm.
In grander strategic terms Taiwan is, technologically, erm, dispensable. Both Europe and the US can, independently, make chips that are good enough, that are fast enough, to be used in any application the question is whether they’re cheap enough for high-end commercial use. The military doesn’t care if a chip costs twice as much and is twice as heavy the propellant and warhead of the rocket weigh magnitudes more anyway.
Where Taiwan is indispensable is being a thorn in China’s side which has strategic value all of its own.
It’s probably the modern reason, but before semiconductors there was already a lot of nationalistic tension around Taiwan.
Yes, all of the most advanced chip making factories are in Taiwan.
Not really. The most advanced manufacturing sites are still in laboratories in the United States and Europe, it’s just that they are not suited for mass production.
Hey China I made you this sweet horse statue in the form of an x86 processor – You should put it in the town square to show it off and then all go to sleep…
x86 is dying, legacy processing. It’s all GPU’s and ARM processing now. Apple is leaning hard into it so they set themselves as a leader in AI in the future.
You very obviously don’t understand the truly enormous power of technical inertia.
Well they probably know what they put in the CPUs they export to the US and Europe, so why would they?
China bans Intel and AMD from government machines, the US blocked Huawei from the entirety of the US.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
AMD and Intel are not present on a list of processors approved by China’s Information Security Evaluation Center.
The x86 architecture does make the list, but only in chips made by Shanghai Zhaoxin Integrated Circuit Co., Ltd – which is minority-owned by Taiwan’s Via Technologies and holds a license to produce x86 processors.
The other approved chip shops make processors powered by Arm cores or, in the case of Loongson Technologies, the RISC-V architecture.
Second, the Financial Times found it over the weekend and reported that publication of the list accelerated efforts in China to replace Western tech and hardware with locally developed kit.
The FT chatted to some IT shops inside China and they confirmed that they’re phasing out items like PCs running Windows, because shop-at-home mandates have taken force.
Last week, authorities again called on web platforms to police more vigilantly the use of provocative typos and puns that can be construed as criticism of the Chinese Communist Party.
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Can’t even source their own chips. Need to buy from the real China, Taiwan.
China is a fucking joke.
Make RISC-V great again
Loongson is fully Chinese. Only the x86 chips have a Taiwan joint.
Yeah, only the most dominant, mature, and in-use instruction set.
When was the last time you ran a SPARC binary?
I was gonna say x64, but I just realized that that’s x86.
Anyways, none of these are SPARC either, and if they’re switching to another operating system, it seems logical for them to use ARM since Windows apps can’t run anyway
Whatever that gets a RISC-V open source chip made i am supporting don’t care if its china or russia lets just hope this makes the giants follow along .
China, Russia, and open source? Hahaha
Yeah i also thought about it but decided to be optimistic for a sec . Atleast i hope they indirectly press others to do so.
What bothers me is the kernel version. Only one OS is on Linux 5 while the rest are on Linux 4‽
Is this really a surprise since we ban them from using our tech. I wouldn’t want my tech to hinge on an other country that doesn’t want me to have the stronger than average stuff either tbh.
I’m all for critiquing China where it makes sense but this just seems like the same national security measures the West has taken in the past (Huawei 5G anyone?)
It’s also defacto mandating that their CCP approved Spyware chips are in place
Spyware chips are far more problematic than just using boring old software. Why bother when you can just bundle the spyware into your own Linux distro?
Yeah! Can’t they just get Apple and Microsoft to postpone updates for exploit those vulnerabilities? Oh wait…
Hi, Europeans! This is a careful reminder to use Linux. Step away from yankee companies.
You’re getting downvoted but you are right, from a security standpoint Europe’s infrastructure is dangerously reliant on an increasingly unpredictable USA. The status quo was fine while Europe and the US agreed on pretty much every foreign policy but it’s becoming increasingly clear that the two blocks are slowly drifting in different directions. Eventually Europe’s reliance on US IT will become a problem.
What is very impressive is that they can easily supply their government without CPUs from Intel and AMD. Chinese semiconductor industry has come far.
So the Hygon Dhyana CPUs ended up not being different enough from the Zen 1 Epycs to make the list, then? Interesting.
Zilog: my time has come!
