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...NixOS is the new Arch Linux. Change my mind.
this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2024
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Hardly, NixOS documentation is trash. The Arch Wiki is essentially the platonic ideal of documentation.
Truefax
Maybe you should learn to read the manual or debug your system without hand holding 😉
The difference is I can upgrade my NixOS without breaking everything hahaha. But it has gotten a lot more popular recently, which I think is your analogy? Or because people always bring it up now lol
yea i think its the popularity spike. if only there were more docs on flakes though.
I still don't completely get their point, TBH.
And the Nix language seems to be intentionally confusingly close to json.
The similarities are superficial at best. The only thing similar is that it uses braces for attribute sets (objects) and square brackets for lists. And I guess quotes for strings.
But otherwise it's a full (functional) programming language, with functions, variable bindings, etc.
Flakes aren't perfect, but they are really good for ensuring that you have completely reproducible builds since the version used for every dependency is pinned.
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control the versions of the repo and packages
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config the official repo (allow unfree packages for example) that doesn't work unless you're on nixos
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add packages from a git repo
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update package definitions (think
apt update)
iirc theyre meant to improve reproducibility by using pinned versions of stuff like nixpkgs instead of inheriting from your system which could be a problem if for example someone on 23.11 sends a deriv to someone on 24.05
If only wiki was as good as Arch's...
exactly. cant blame them tho, its unofficial.
I agree, altough I'm trying to use them here and there, i'm still very confused by it.
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It doesn't have a wiki as good as Arch, yet
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with the linux logo on his face
😂 a freudian slip
Why do you include the CC link in all of your comments...?
It's a phase
I gotta say and it feels weird to but I'm happy Arch are spending a bit longer testing these days. When I used to run it updates just felt rushed into the repo so Arch got it first.
Getting plasma 6 a week after it drops is still “bleeding edge” when the alternative is a couple months
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Seriously, the learning curve of nixOS is still... exhausting. Couldn't get it to run with plasma 6 and wayland and the documentation is so incomplete.
Edit: Typo
That's unfortunately true. There's a community effort to document stuff without going through the lengthy process of getting it approved by overworked maintainers: https://nixlang.wiki
Feel free to contribute your learnings there.
At least rolling back after you broke it was easy. :)
When it's the first thing you tried after a fresh install, it's quite frustrating.
Oh yeah, I've been running nix for a week, it can't even find plz6 after I added unstable and updated. Lost a couple hours to the attempt, rollback was 30 sec tho
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Couldn't Arch users just install it through the Nix Package manager?
NixOS users install KDE using a NixOS config option, as there's a lot of configuration needed to make KDE run beyond just installing the binaries.
You people
Yes, we the people! Rise up, comrad!
In Russia people rise into you!
Seriously though I can always spot your comments from the link you always include.
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LFS users are like
GTFO
Can't you just build from source of you want it? Like kde has pretty good docs for this.
It was also already in Arch's KDE-unstable repo. I've been using Plasma 6 for like 3 months.
Compiling source code tends to get messy when you decide to remove it from your system. Also, you'll have to manually update it, any package manager will be unaware of it and can't do anything with it anyway. You'll also be responsible for dealing with conflicts with other software or dependency issues. That's why we have repos. Someone else did all that work already.
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fun fact: you could add the extra-testing to repo to get it the first day
Considering all of my theming and several of my apps have broken today, and that I’ve had two crashes… I’m glad they took longer.
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@onlinepersona@programming.dev not really about this post, but i see that you have a license link in all your comments. Just curious, do you copy-paste that every time or do you have some automated setup?
I do copy paste it. KDE has a tool called klipper that allows to have a clipboard history, so hitting Super+V brings up a dropdown and I can select it. The effort is therefore minimal.
Consider using the KDE keyboard shortcut tools to set up a permanent paste keybind instead of using the history.
For example, I have a keybind that sends a known mouse movement input, which I use to set that known mouse input to always correspond to ten centimeters of on-screen movement.
Using a keybind would remove the need to ever select the right item from the history, and reduce the clutter in it for copy-pasting other things.
Oh hey, I thanks for the hint. I hadn't thought of that!
Looks like there was a bug in KDE5 (KDE6 is on another PC) and I had to follow instructions on this stackoverflow.
They removed legacy font based DPI scaling. I hate it. Nothing looks right 😭
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How long until "works on my machine" becomes "works on my config"
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