You just state that the goal is happiness, well-being, etc. But don’t provide an objective argument or evidence for why that’s true or an objective moral system. Can you elaborate on that please?
What if harming others makes me happy? Or I do things that bring me good well being at the cost of others and society?
Pressuring children into a belief system that has no basis in reality, which preaches subservience and lack of modern reason, is antithetical to societal advancement. We need to explore the stars, not the preacher’s pants.
If a child finds religion on their own, then cool. But if an adult needs to send them to weekly indoctrination sessions, then that’s child abuse and manipulation.
And who gets to decide that? You? People have different views on the world even between people who don’t believe in religion at all. So let’s have children be indoctrinated by their schools and surroundings. Just like you view religious views as awful and indoctrinating so do other people view other views the same. You might have a Marxist who loves communism and thinks capitalism and its ideas are awful and that we must fight against the liberal capitalist order. Would you consider that person teaching their children as “indoctrination”?
Just because you don’t have reason to believe in religion doesn’t mean other people are in the same boat. And it doesn’t mean there isn’t logic or reason behind it.
I have no problem taking responsibility for that decision, so yes. I’ll decide. The same way Republicans think they can decide that being gay is illegal, being trans means you’re subhuman, and that women don’t deserve reproductive rights. I have no problem making these decisions if that’s the alternative.
Not OP, but I’m an atheist. Indoctrination of children is immoral, teaching them about myths is not.
Simple. Start with a goal: happiness, well-being, etc. From there you can make objective decisions that further that goal.
As a theist, how do you come to morality? How do you get past the Euthyphro dilemma with regard to morality?
You just state that the goal is happiness, well-being, etc. But don’t provide an objective argument or evidence for why that’s true or an objective moral system. Can you elaborate on that please?
What if harming others makes me happy? Or I do things that bring me good well being at the cost of others and society?
Pressuring children into a belief system that has no basis in reality, which preaches subservience and lack of modern reason, is antithetical to societal advancement. We need to explore the stars, not the preacher’s pants.
If a child finds religion on their own, then cool. But if an adult needs to send them to weekly indoctrination sessions, then that’s child abuse and manipulation.
And who gets to decide that? You? People have different views on the world even between people who don’t believe in religion at all. So let’s have children be indoctrinated by their schools and surroundings. Just like you view religious views as awful and indoctrinating so do other people view other views the same. You might have a Marxist who loves communism and thinks capitalism and its ideas are awful and that we must fight against the liberal capitalist order. Would you consider that person teaching their children as “indoctrination”?
Just because you don’t have reason to believe in religion doesn’t mean other people are in the same boat. And it doesn’t mean there isn’t logic or reason behind it.
I have no problem taking responsibility for that decision, so yes. I’ll decide. The same way Republicans think they can decide that being gay is illegal, being trans means you’re subhuman, and that women don’t deserve reproductive rights. I have no problem making these decisions if that’s the alternative.