This is a loaded question that fundamentally misundertands that gun control is a national issue, not a local or state one. Because we have lax borders between states, the strongest gun control law can only ever be as strong as the weakest gun control law nationally.
That, and there’s the fact that even the existing laws that aren’t effected by such an issue are toothless thanks to originalism.
I get it, defending liberal ideas is hard it requires suspension of logic and reason. You’ll never be able to communicate with conservatives if you can’t explain your ideas using logic or reason.
There you go being an edge lord again. Democrats don’t want to reduce death. If so they’d give up their guns since that’s where most the violence comes from. Blue cities are where most the murders happen.
It’s not an insult. It’s what you are doing. You didn’t question a thing. You went full edge lord.
Because there is more people there. You can’t have murders if there aren’t people in an area
How to say you don’t understand murder statistics. It’s done by a ratio per 100k. Democrat runs cities have massive problems with people killing each other.
Why I live in red areas. I don’t want to deal with the crime and violence. When we have it creep into our area, the police come and crush it as they should.
It’s not an insult. It’s what you are doing. You didn’t question a thing. You went full edge lord.
Cool. I’ll keep that in mind going forward, and I’ll be ready to call others edge lords the moment they say something dumb.
How to say you don’t understand murder statistics.
I am aware statistics use per capita measurements.
It’s done by a ratio per 100k
And here is where your argument falls apart. You aren’t accounting for population density, which effects crime and homicide rates. If nobody interacts with one another because they’re in the middle of nowhere, they can’t kill each other.
When we have it creep into our area, the police come and crush it as they should.
That and the acorns. Jokes aside, you are an edge lord for saying this. Normal people don’t fetishize cops like this.
You aren’t accounting for population density, which effects crime and homicide rates
Cite for that. That sounds like something you made up.
Jokes aside, you are an edge lord for saying this
That isn’t an edge lord comment. That’s what we pay the police to do. Their job is to remove the criminal element from society. Democrats tolerate murder and celebrate it. Republicans want to live in a crime free society.
Cite for that. That sounds like something you made up.
You’re asking me to prove that you can’t homicide somebody that doesn’t exist.
Their job is to remove the criminal element from society.
This is just more edge lord fetishization of the police.
Democrats tolerate murder and celebrate it.
That is not true.
I’d ask you in earnest to provide a citation, but you’re not here for honest discussion.
/u/blamemeta, are you going to call winter out for treating democrats as a monolith, or will this double standard continue?
Republicans want to live in a crime free society.
Yet you guys are doing everything in your power to kill public education, social welfare, and the vertical mobility of Americans. You guys don’t care about crime except when it is convenient, and you can ignore your own contributions to crime.
You made the claim. I’m asking you to cite your claim.
Do you expect citations from people saying water is wet?
Easy enough
“Majority of democrats pressure singular democrat over widely misunderstood phrase” equates to democrats celebrating murder? What a joke.
Pointing to a single democrat does not represent all democrats
The article itself states that she is in the minority position, even amongst democrats, further making her a bad representation of democrats on this issue
“Defund the police” is widely misunderstood as a phrase
Even if she literally meant “no police should exist” instead of the much more common meaning, that statement is not a celebration of crime or murder
So you’ve failed on multiple levels. Great job ignoring the rest of what I said though.
Yeah how dare democrats try to reduce deaths. Truly madness. Real Americans want as many people to die as possible.
How many murders have NY gun control policies prevented?
This is a loaded question that fundamentally misundertands that gun control is a national issue, not a local or state one. Because we have lax borders between states, the strongest gun control law can only ever be as strong as the weakest gun control law nationally.
That, and there’s the fact that even the existing laws that aren’t effected by such an issue are toothless thanks to originalism.
So what you’re saying is NY’s gun laws don’t work. Do democrats pass those laws to pat themselves on the back?
If you’re not even going to attempt to understand what I am saying, don’t bother.
Your inability to articulate your convoluted point that NY’s gun control saves lives but that local gun control laws don’t work is squarely on you.
No, I articulated my point perfectly well. You just prefer ignorance. I can’t fix your values or preferences.
I get it, defending liberal ideas is hard it requires suspension of logic and reason. You’ll never be able to communicate with conservatives if you can’t explain your ideas using logic or reason.
I gave you logic and reason. I explained it very well. You simply prefer to not to acknowledge the truth.
It requires unicorns and rainbows. Otherwise the math doesn’t work.
We have a culture problem, not a gun problem. Yet, nobody wants to talk about the culture problem.
You mean to tell me that the war on morality has consequences.
It’s the thought that counts
There you go being an edge lord again. Democrats don’t want to reduce death. If so they’d give up their guns since that’s where most the violence comes from. Blue cities are where most the murders happen.
There you go being a child again. Somebody questioned your beliefs so you had to resort to insults, because your arguments are lacking.
Sure we do. My intention with my voting is to reduce deaths.
That’s not how it works. This is not just a personal decision, it is a systemic problem.
Because there is more people there. You can’t have murders if there aren’t people in an area.
It’s not an insult. It’s what you are doing. You didn’t question a thing. You went full edge lord.
How to say you don’t understand murder statistics. It’s done by a ratio per 100k. Democrat runs cities have massive problems with people killing each other.
Why I live in red areas. I don’t want to deal with the crime and violence. When we have it creep into our area, the police come and crush it as they should.
Cool. I’ll keep that in mind going forward, and I’ll be ready to call others edge lords the moment they say something dumb.
I am aware statistics use per capita measurements.
And here is where your argument falls apart. You aren’t accounting for population density, which effects crime and homicide rates. If nobody interacts with one another because they’re in the middle of nowhere, they can’t kill each other.
That and the acorns. Jokes aside, you are an edge lord for saying this. Normal people don’t fetishize cops like this.
Cite for that. That sounds like something you made up.
That isn’t an edge lord comment. That’s what we pay the police to do. Their job is to remove the criminal element from society. Democrats tolerate murder and celebrate it. Republicans want to live in a crime free society.
You’re asking me to prove that you can’t homicide somebody that doesn’t exist.
This is just more edge lord fetishization of the police.
That is not true.
I’d ask you in earnest to provide a citation, but you’re not here for honest discussion.
/u/blamemeta, are you going to call winter out for treating democrats as a monolith, or will this double standard continue?
Yet you guys are doing everything in your power to kill public education, social welfare, and the vertical mobility of Americans. You guys don’t care about crime except when it is convenient, and you can ignore your own contributions to crime.
You made the claim. I’m asking you to cite your claim.
Easy enough.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/593517-cori-bush-says-she-wont-stop-saying-defund-the-police-despite-pressure-from/amp/
Democrats are pushing to defund the police which has caused a large spike in crime.
Do you expect citations from people saying water is wet?
“Majority of democrats pressure singular democrat over widely misunderstood phrase” equates to democrats celebrating murder? What a joke.
Pointing to a single democrat does not represent all democrats
The article itself states that she is in the minority position, even amongst democrats, further making her a bad representation of democrats on this issue
“Defund the police” is widely misunderstood as a phrase
Even if she literally meant “no police should exist” instead of the much more common meaning, that statement is not a celebration of crime or murder
So you’ve failed on multiple levels. Great job ignoring the rest of what I said though.