I find the quality and variety of discussions on the fediverse to be lower than what I had on reddit. Lemmings have strong preconceived notions and little interest in changing viewpoints from new information. I think I’ll be switching back.
Edit: you’ll find that most of the comments deny any shortcomings of the culture and go directly to invalidating my opinions via character assassination. If lemmy was a community that actually stood for the ideals which it espouses it would take constructive criticism in the spirit in which it was intended. QED.
I think I’ll be switching back.
Not possible. The reddit that you’re longing for died a very long time ago. Subreddits are entrenched into their positions and will only berate you and bash you if you go against that grain.
What you’re describing here isn’t lemmy. It’s the internet in general.
Edit: Ohhhhhhhhhhh. This explains why you don’t want to be here. It’s not that this place is an echo chamber. It’s that you’re petrified of logic and fact.
OP must have just noped out of government and economics in high school.
He probably just hasn’t gotten to that year in high school yet
Get 'im, Stamets!
Slapping the rails like this is exactly the lack of nuance that lemmy has. You’re either with us or against us. That’s not how people look at issues. What matters is how people are treated. I’m not going to vote for someone who harms people. Being pragmatic to avoid a bad scenario? Don’t even bother.
Being pragmatic to avoid a bad scenario?
You’re not being pragmatic. Being pragmatic is to take the lesser of two evils. You’re taking a different option entirely. Inaction. That is why you aren’t respected for your political opinions.
“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” - John Stuart Mill (A quote butchered and falsely attributed to Edmund Burke)
How is contacting politicians and alerting people to key issues (that will cost the election) inaction? Inaction is plugging your ears and saying “nothing can be done to change the status quo”.
I don’t plan to vote
Contacting your elected officials and trying to get them to do something? Awesome! Allowing the entire country to fall into the hands of a fascist, dooming millions of people to starvation, debt and medical problems until they die, ruining a democracy, and fucking over one of the worlds largest economies because the president won’t simply say a thing you don’t like? Pathetic and also inaction.
You have exactly one bargaining chit with politicians each election. First you need to make it very clear what is required in exchange for it, then you need to follow through. If you fail to do either then you’ll just get more of the same or worse.
I see where you’re coming from but I also get reddit-ass pandentic arguments here. People downvoting you for posting an unpopular opinion on unpopularopinion is peak reddit as well.
Since I can get the wider reddit experience without spez, I will just stay. I use an alt front to see the smaller communities on reddit once in a blue moon. That’s what works for me.
Incels got banned from Reddit so they migrated here.
I disagree. I feel that on Reddit, the type of users and discussions were mostly toxic and based on popularity. Lemmy is far from perfect, and there are aspects about it that I feel certainly are lacking, but to suggest that it’s a bigger echo chamber than reddit, I find hard to believe. But, if you can provide me with some examples that highlight your point of view, I would be interested.
Density of toxic rhetoric is through the roof on lemmy. It rivals what you’d find on bad private forums of yore.
toxic
This you?
If it ain’t Tomino it ain’t Gundam.
If it ain’t Lucas it ain’t Star Wars.
If it ain’t Roddenberry it ain’t Trek.
Importantly if you think Kurtzman is making Trek then you misunderstand the series. Star Trek is about a future where humanity lifts itself fully out of its worst aspects. It shows us what we should aspire to be. Kurtzman just wants to make Starship Troppers without the satire.
Nice toxic gatekeeping rhetoric there.
This you? 🙂
Is it gatekeeping to say fan fiction is not canon? Kurtzman’s Trek is bad fanfiction with legal cover. I could write some nonsense and slap Star Trek on it and I wouldn’t be able to force you to consider it Star Trek. If I had a billion dollars and bought the rights to the name would that change your mind?
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Why are you so upset? I’m not old or racist. You did look through my comments and cherry picked examples to try to smear me. I’m very liberal, but admitting that would be a big backpedal. You disagree with my opinions, so I must be evil. It’s a bad sign with someone of your disposition is in a position of authority. If you wear the uniform you should strive to be worthy of it.
Uh, I see the stuff with the politics stuff but… how is their opinion without explanation of Star Trek toxic?
They’re not Trek
They’re not the arbiter of Trek. They have no input on what is and is not real Trek. They can like it and not like it all they want, thats opinion. But it’s pretty toxic and shitty to try and claim that because it doesn’t fit with your personal views that it isn’t real Star Trek.
It is indeed toxic but frankly it’s more pathetic piss baby behavior than anything else.
It’s a rhetorical expression that says that the subject goes against the spirit of the franchise. There’s no claim of authority in there, and I don’t see why you think so.
What subs are you in? I can think of a few that are terrible, so I blocked them, and many more where I don’t think I have ever seen more than critical opinion.
I’m only subbed to freefolk.
The main problem with it is that there isn’t enough users
Unpopular opinion: I hate this argument. At what point is there ever going to be “enough users”? I think that’s just an easy cop out used to avoid actually addressing whatever debate you’re having. And I mean this with respect.
I think there are enough, they’re just the wrong users.
I think this comment says a lot, maybe it’s you who is the " wrong user"
My comment history is free to audit. That’s a lot of work though and jumping to conclusions at any sign of a diverging thought feels better. Definitely not an echo chamber.
I don’t care about your comment history what do you want? People who pat you on the back for your shitty opinions?
*On the old reddit you mean. Because now its a shitshow.
Why? Honestly asking, it looks the same to me, as if nothing happened.
You probably not using the official reddit app. But just the lag, the delay, the mega mods, those crazy admins that ban them just by saying there name and just the ammounts of ads, there are just so many karma farmer.
Oh man, I say that I’m honestly asking because I really don’t know and I still get downvoted. That’s hilarious.
Anyways, I really haven’t experienced anything new besides a bug with the comments. Sometimes it loads the comments from a different post, so they obviously forgot to update the value of a variable somewhere in the code, and the comments are referencing a post I already saw.
Besides that, it’s the same as before. Bots, karma farmers, insane mods… it feels the same as 2 years ago.
I meant even far before 2 years ago, where reddit was not bs.
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rule 2
rule 2 hates the truth… it’s running from reality…
You might want to try Hexbear or The_donald if your goal is to discuss “strong president”.
Genuinely trying to help you here.
You should go live in Russia.
