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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 3 points 9 months ago (8 children)

It's been advertised forever. If there was a case, Nintendo lawsuit-happy lawyers would have taken them down by now. It was never a secret their design shared aesthetic with Pokemon.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Reading the article explains that it's not that their aesthetic is shared, it's that some of the models are extremely similar to S/V models, beyond the likelihood of coincidence, and Nintendo plans to investigate if it's coincidence or actual asset theft.

[–] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That was disproven several times - the guy who claimed it even admitted he'd altered Palworld's assets to show that supposed 'similarity'

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Source? Or is this a "dude trust me"

[–] Rusty_Red@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Screenrant Article here from a day ago. It does still state that Nintendo intends to investigate, but most of the stolen/copied asset claims have been refuted or rescinded. With the main "they stole assets" person admitting they fabricated the proof because they hate how Palworld glorifies animal abuse (which is extremely ironic to me because no one had a problem when Pokémon was cockfighting for children)

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

No they are not.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

its ridiculous the number of fucking nintendo stans that are crying for nintendo to do something about Palworld.

Nintendo is the most litigeous company in the world (They fucking DCMA'd themselves for fucks sake) , If Palworld violated anything and Nintendo had actual opportunity to sue for anything.. They'd have done so long ago.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They fucking DCMA'd themselves for fucks sake

Oh, I want to hear the story behind this.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

they had a complete meltdown when some people got tears of the kingdom early via shipping mishaps, so went on a massive rampage of DMCA notices to take down everything mentioning it. Youtube Videos, News Articles (that contained nothing but nintendo released official screen shots/images), and their own twitter account advertising the fucking game...

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

Incidentally, I've only really found a YT video and this KYM page talking about how Nintendo DMCA'd themselves. That should've been the headline of any gaming outlet - https://knowyourmeme.com/news/nintendo-accidentally-copyright-strikes-itself-in-its-effort-to-combat-tears-of-the-kingdom-leaks

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The statement sounds like PR speak for, please stop telling us about palworld, we've heard already.

I'm sure they have been inundated by panicked investors contacting them after reading the words, "pokemon with guns" in the news. The statement should reassure them that the company takes defending their IP seriously.

The game's been out long enough for them to write a cease and desist if they wanted to get litigious.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Pretty much yeah. Mostly just "Yes, we know." If they had any real chance of killing it off, they'd have done so before the game even launched. They'll make a big show of looking into it, then grumpily admit there wasn't technically any wrongdoing and, while they don't support Palworld, they can't actually stop it.

[–] rubikcuber@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Your DMCA notice is in the mail, buddy!

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

At this point it would be better for nintendo to buy palworld from the delveloper and make pokemon multiversal with palworld existing in an alternate universe.

That way they could cash in on the massive success, separate it from their actual pokemon IP all whilst appeasing fans of palworld by keeping the game alive.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You seem to think they would put any value in appeasing fans of Palworld. They're not even interested in appeasing their own fans. If they could publicly behead Palworld for all it's fans to see they'd do it just to send a message.

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[–] Bonesy91@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fuck game freak. Like they cant even fix there own games and shit.

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right!? Palworld is just the game players have been begging for for a decade.

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't go that far.

I can see why people who were into Ark, Valheim, Fortnite, Minecraft; however, it's just like any other survival builder game. It just has Pokemon in it. I don't see the hype.

[–] Raz@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It just has Pokemon in it.

That's the point!

[–] IGuessThisIsForNSFW@yiffit.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I knew nothing about Palworld besides the tag line 'It's Pokémon with guns' and saw it was included with gamepass. I installed it and to my absolute horror in the first 5 minutes of the game it had me craft a stone pickaxe. Palworld is Ark with cuter dinosaurs, I don't get the Pokémon comparison beyond you use balls to hold the monsters.

[–] Ignisnex@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can also use those same balls to capture people. And eat them.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

If I gave you some of my balls, could you eat my balls?

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We keep thinking about such IP lawsuits as "all or nothing" affairs because YouTube with their strike system and similar systems by other companies make it seem that way. Yet that's not the case.

In this instance, Game Freak and Nintendo probably cannot go after palworld as a whole but battle around and then have them change singular Pal designs. That's a super expensive thing to do and takes ages. So they'll only do that if they risk loosing the claim to some brand ownership or other.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Which would be fine, frankly. With all the money Palworld got, they can aford to redesign some creatures. The number of them that actually look like imitations in practice is much smaller than critics make it to be.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think people compare a lot because it's extremely easy to think of the "originals", even when it's more of an inspiration than a copy-paste, like Wixen-Braixen, Lamball-Wooloo or Lovander-Salamence.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I agree. But being evocative of an idea is not illegal, unless the design is near indistinguishable or if they used files from Pokémon in the production of the Pals. Say, how many Superman copies are there? There are multiple stories out there whose main idea is "What if Superman was bad."

Meanwhile I see people going "Anubis is just Lucario" and I wonder why they think the Pokémon Company owns the idea of every single upright canid. It doesn't even have spikes or anything.

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[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, Palworld developer now have $200 million more than a week ago so now they can afford lawyers as good as the Pokémon company.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It takes weeks until they see any of that Steam money from a game they just released in early access. Though a bank might likely give them a hefty loan now for a proper defense. But let‘s not pretend Japan copyright and trademark laws are lenient or reasonable and Nintendo is basically a national treasure. If Pocketpair was based in any other country it would be different but here we really do not know how it could go.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean. The guy who "broke" the story of IP "theft" in pal world admitted he made it up. Basically scaled models etc to make them look similar on purpose.

https://screenrant.com/palworld-pokemon-asset-copy-claims-lies-apology/#:%7E:text=Claims%20that%20Palworld%20used%20assets,Pok%C3%A9mon%20in%20aesthetics%20and%20design.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

People white-knighting for Nintendo against a company that gave them an enjoyably Pokemon game.

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Fuck the pokemon company

[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 9 months ago

If Nintendo would invest the money they pump in DMCA takedowns and lawyers in their games instead,
then perhaps they would have a chance to make something equally good as Palworld.

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