The company said this did not represent a reversal of its previous stance, but rather the result of reconsidering how it interprets its existing policies.
We’re not taking back what we said about how we wouldn’t kick Nazis off the platform… but we’re kicking Nazis off the platform.
What a fucking laugh. Fuck Substack.
I agree, it’s a tiny step in the right direction, but definitely too little too late.
It’s not though, like they say themselves it’s only a reconsideration of the existing policies which is to maximize profit, morals be dammed. First they welcomed Nazis because Nazis gave them money and now they don’t because Nazis cause other people to stop giving them money. If Nazis wasn’t bad business nothing would have changed. This whole ordeal showed what kind of people they are.
Plus, they can’t even admit they’re caving to public pressure. Ego-ridden Nazi sympathizers, weird how that keeps happening.
They’ll just do something similar to what Musk did on Shitter initially, pretend to kick them off and then quietly let them back on.
“We’re not backtracking, we’re just doing a 180° turn from our previous course”. Fucking clowns, probably the Nazi money wasn’t enough to compensate the loss of subscribers.
Good to know there’s still enough sane people left to make an effort like this.
Am I crazy, or is this Bud Light-levels of corporate idiocy!?
First they piss off non-Nazis by saying they won’t remove Nazi-speech. Then they cave to the backlash and remove Nazi speech, pissing off all the Nazis (who they obviously wanted to create a “safe space” for). But everyone else won’t be coming back because of the obvious, mask-off intent…
Even if they didn’t support Nazi publications, it would be hard to stay loyal to such an incompetent company…
At least they’re trying to backtrack and weasal up to the sane side instead of just doubling down and saying, “Fuck it, yeah, we’re Nazis now.”
its new policy interpretation will not include proactively removing content related to neo-Nazis and far-right extremism. But Substack will continue to remove any material that includes “credible threats of physical harm
Not even removing nazi publications
Didn’t take that long to walk back on the decision
They had a come to Jesus moment with Stripe.
I’m never coming back. And I was paying for multiple publications. Fuck off you Nazis.
Cool, so all pro israel posts are getting banned?
Non-subscribewalled link: https://12ft.io/https://www.platformer.news/p/substack-says-it-will-remove-nazi?
I’ll believe it when Glinner’s blog is gone
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Had to look up what substack was. Not sure if that speaks more of it’s irrelevance, my ignorance or if it’s a 50/50 split.
I never heard of these clowns either. You’re not alone.
Well done, less hatred in our world.
Nazism is so 30’s, don’t they have something more popular to hate?
30’s are soon
Well, shit.
Yes.
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So the fediverse has missed an opportunity here.
Get subscriptions into the system, but decentralised (ie, not bound to a single platform / corporation) and you’ve pretty much got substack on the fediverse automatically with authors having all the control substack gives them and more.
It’s a real no-brainer except that the fediverse’s aversion to money and any sort of “transactional” internet means such things are an afterthought here it seems, unfortunately.
It saddens me a little, because on top of that, there seems to be relatively little impetus to lean into bringing blogging back on the fediverse (compared to trying to merely clone twitter), when it seems like the perfect fit for the fediverse and its decentralisation (unlike cloning twitter, which won’t really happen on the fediverse TBH). And just when a company could have been taught a lesson the fediverse seems to me to have dropped the ball.
there seems to be relatively little impetus to lean into bringing blogging back on the fediverse
There’s literally a wordpress plugin.
Its not a missed oppurtunity, it just hasent happened yet. Lemmy/Mastodon aren’t a great fit for this, but it sounds like a new service might be.
Unfortunately the only payment implementation would likely be crypto, as otherwise every instance would have to setup a payment processor account, as most artists use things like substack to not deal with that. It would be hard to justify paying stripe/etc a large amount per month without taking a cut of the authors sales, especially if there are no authors on your instance making sales.
Maybe Ghost will consider adding activitypub support
That definitely sounds interesting (I’ve heard some are moving to Ghost, and from their page it definitely looks interesting).
The issue though is money. The fediverse doesn’t do money, transactions and subscriptions, and so Ghost would have a hard time seeing value in federating as they wouldn’t, AFAIU, be able to federate a subscription system over the protocol and so wouldn’t be able to integrate with the userbase already here.
And this is one of the problems the fedi has. It’s kinda on the roadmap for the development of the protocol, but probably a long way off. And even if it were in the protocol, it wouldn’t work until other platforms added the features for a subscription system and successfully developed working federation of it, which in the case of, say, Mastodon and Lemmy, would only serve to benefit some other platform like Ghost rather than themselves.
So unless Ghost develop the necessary parts for the fediverse … I’d be doubtful something like that is happening any time soon.
Otherwise, more abstractly, if I’m onto something with this take, I believe it’s a good example of how the fediverse’s dependence on monolithic platforms rather than a more modular ecosystem of composable apps that all operate directly on data shared over the protocol may actually start hurting the attractiveness of the ecosystem.
I don’t understand the confusion.
Just use ActivityPub to publish blurbs and links to content available on your Ghost blog. Ghost supports subscriptions so you can then stand up a paywall when people click through.
Nothing about ActivityPub requires you syndicate full article content to the fedi. Hell my own blog doesn’t do that, if only because Mastodon is not a good place for long-form content.
