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[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just exclude Russia? It's not like they give a damn about their climate commitments anyway

Russia's like that one kid that attacked another kid, is now having a bad day, and trying to make everyone else's life miserable for it

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The funny part is, if they can not agree on a host Germany is going to host it.

[–] Pancito@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still miss the funny part.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The rule is that a Eastern European country as defined by the UN should host the COP. However Russia is blocking everybody on the unfriendly country list for Russia. Now they also block the Azeris, who are not even on the list. Not only that they also are a large oil and gas producer. Basically unless they host it in Russia or Belarus, which a lot of countries would block, it ends up with Germany, which Russia also considers an unfriendly country. Not only that you just have to look at EU voting on climate issues to see that the current German government tends to be harder on most climate issues then even the EU members further east.

Basically this is Russia being a dick and getting about the worst deal it possibly could in the matter. The host is a huge part in preparing these events and I can not imaging how Germany would do a worse job then Azerbaijan from Russias perspective.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

They're blocking the Azeris for making them look incompetent over Armenia

[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If countries cannot agree on a host for 2024, the summit will default to Germany under the rules of the U.N. climate body.

shrugs

I mean, that works. Germany's gonna have said infrastructure for having a summit, and it sounds like Russia can't block it from being held in Germany. It's probably annoying to Azerbaijan from a diplomatic standpoint, but I don't think that it actually hurts them much, unless they've already put money into setting up hosting.

A statement from the prime minister’s office in Armenia said that as a good-will measure to repair relations between the two warring countries, it would release two Azerbaijani soldiers and endorse its bid to host COP29 in exchange for 32 of its own soldiers held by Azerbaijan. Bulgaria prepared to drop its bid. Azerbaijani diplomats were congratulating one another.

I think in terms of a good-will gesture, it probably already worked. Armenia and Azerbaijan said that they were willing to work together. If Russia blocks the actual event, it's not like it erases that.

Maybe line up some other summit that Russia isn't in the loop on to happen in Azerbaijan.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Tensions over Russia’s war in Ukraine have hampered the ability of diplomats meeting in the United Arab Emirates for this year’s summit, known as COP28, to find a location for 2024.

The latest impasse came on Friday when Azerbaijan won the blessing of its neighbor and longtime foe, Armenia, to host the summit — only to be blocked by Russia hours later, according to European diplomats.

Observers called the inability of nations to select a host for next year a troubling sign for efforts to find global consensus on the far more serious issue of tackling climate change.

“Russia just wants to be a troublemaker on everything in the international setting,” said Jake Schmidt, the senior strategic director for the Natural Resources Defense Council, an environmental group.

Most Eastern European countries have strongly condemned Russia’s aggression against Ukraine and have joined Western powers in imposing stiff sanctions in response to the invasion.

Sultan Al Jaber, the Emirati oil executive who is presiding over the summit and has been widely criticized by environmental activists, has indicated that he is not eager to take on the mantle again, according to one person familiar with his thinking.


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