Short version:

Date DRS count Source
10/30/2021 20,800,000 Form 10-Q
1/29/2022 35,600,000 Form 10-K
4/30/2022 50,800,000 Form 10-Q
5/26/2022 47,016,408 List of stockholders
7/30/2022 71,300,000 Form 10-Q
8/15/2022 72,500,012 Whale #1 DRS’d 1,200,012 shares
10/29/2022 71,800,000 Form 10-Q
3/22/2023 76,000,000 Form 10-K
4/21/2023 76,265,982 List of stockholders
6/1/2023 76,600,000 Form 10-Q
6/20/2023 75,329,434 Mainstar rugpull -1,270,566
8/31/2023 75,400,000 Form 10-Q
11/30/2023 75,400,000 Form 10-Q

Long version:

Date Shares Comparing to previous date Filing Notes
10/30/2021 10-Q 5,200,000 (x4 = 20,800,000 DRS) “As of October 30, 2021, 5.2 million shares … were directly registered with our transfer agent, ComputerShare.”
1/29/2022 10-K 8,900,000 (x4 = 35,600,000 DRS) +14,800,000 DRS over 91 days “As of January 29, 2022, 8.9 million shares … were directly registered with our transfer agent, ComputerShare.”
4/30/2022 10-Q 12,700,000 (x4 = 50,800,000 DRS) +15,200,000 DRS over 91 days “As of April 30, 2022, 12.7 million shares … were directly registered with our transfer agent.”
5/26/2022 list of stockholders Total shares: 76,129,034 (x4 = 304,516,136) !! Owned by Cede: 64,374,932 (x4 = 257,499,728) !! Implied Non-Cede: 11,754,102 (x4 = 47,016,408 DRS) -3,783,592 DRS over 26 days
7/30/2022 10-Q 71,300,000 DRS +24,283,592 DRS from 5/26/2022 list of shareholders (over 65 days) or +20,500,000 DRS from 4/30/2022 10-Q (over 91 days) “As of July 30, 2022, 71.3 million shares … were directly registered with our transfer agent.”
8/15/2022 Whale #1 DRS’d 1,200,012 shares 72,500,012 DRS
10/29/2022 10-Q 71,800,000 DRS +500,000 DRS over 91 days (5,494 per day) “As of October 29, 2022, 71.8 million shares … were directly registered with our transfer agent.”
3/22/2023 10-K Owned by Cede: ~228,700,000 !! Non-Cede: ~76,000,000 DRS +4,200,000 DRS over 144 days (29,166 per day) “Excluding the approximately 228.7 million shares … held by Cede & Co on behalf of the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation, approximately 76.0 million shares of … were held by record holders as of March 22, 2023.”
4/21/2023 list of stockholders Total shares: 304,717,022 !! Owned by Cede: 228,451,023.9 (+16) !! Non-Cede shares: 76,265,982.1 DRS +265,982 DRS over 30 days (8,866 per day)
6/1/2023 10-Q Owned by Cede: ~228,100,000 !! Non-Cede: ~76,600,000 DRS +334,018 DRS over 41 days (8,146 per day) “Of those outstanding shares, approximately 228.1 million were held by Cede & Co on behalf of the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation and approximately 76.6 million shares … were held by registered holders with our transfer agent as of June 1, 2023.”
6/20/2023 Mainstar rugpull Minus 1,270,566 DRS shares
8/31/2023 10-Q Owned by Cede: ~229,800,000 !! Non-Cede: ~75,400,000 DRS -1,200,000 DRS over 91 days “Of those outstanding shares, approximately 229.8 million were held by Cede & Co on behalf of the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation and approximately 75.4 million shares … were held by registered holders with our transfer agent as of August 31, 2023.”
11/30/2023 10-Q Total shares: 305,514,315 !! Owned by Cede: ~230,100,000 !! Non-Cede shares: ~75,400,000 DRS 0 DRS over 91 days “Of those outstanding shares, approximately 230.1 million were held by Cede & Co on behalf of the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation and approximately 75.4 million shares … were held by registered holders with our transfer agent as of November 30, 2023.”

Discussion points:

  • It seems “odd” on some of the DRS count fluctuations since the beginning.
  • There have been 2 “somewhat hidden” 2022 rugpulls (May 2022 and Aug/Sep/Oct 2022), the June 2023 Mainstar rugpull, and now the Sep/Oct/Nov 2023 rugpull.
  • It seems “odd” on recent DRS count stagnating (excluding the Mainstar rugpull of 1.27 million shares). From a very simplistic view assuming 200,000 Computershare accounts:
Buy X number of shares a month Multiply by 3 months per quarter Total DRS per quarter if 100,000 active accounts Total DRS per quarter if 200,000 active accounts
1 3 300,000 600,000
2 6 600,000 1,200,000
3 9 900,000 1,800,000
4 12 1,200,000 2,400,000
5 15 1,500,000 3,000,000
  • The April 2023 List of stockholders DRS numbers seem correct and line up with SEC filings.
  • Possible some investors have had to un-DRS.
  • Possible economic slowdown has reduced investor purchasing power.
  • Whale investors who helped inflate DRS numbers alot, have dramatically slowed down their purchasing.
  • Tinfoil - forces inflate DRS shares 9 to 18 months back, then drain their DRS shares later. Probably spread across say 3,000 accounts to make it seem like normal activity.
  • Tinfoil - operational efficiency draining from DRS non-Book shares on certain dates.
  • Tinfoil - possible something funny with SEC filing reported number.
  • Chives@lemmy.whynotdrs.orgM
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    11 months ago

    Yes, there were, and yes, they all matched exactly.

    However - that doesn’t mean your conclusion is correct. Remember that the stock list does not track ownership, but voting rights. Whether or not operational efficiency is responsible for lowered DRS reporting, it would not appear on the stock list as voting rights are maintained in the names of investors holding through the DirectStock plan.

    • burntpie2000@lemmy.whynotdrs.org
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      11 months ago

      Interesting, Still trying to get my head around it…

      If the 10-K on 3/22/2023 had ~76,000,000 Then the stockholder list on 4/21/2023 had 76,265,982 (did the investors count this themselves?) Then the 10-Q on 6/1/2023 had ~76,600,000

      If you look at the stockholder list, which contains book and plan, it seems to correlate well with the 10-Q and 10-K, for which we don’t know what type of shares are included. If the 10-K/10-Q didn’t contain all or a portion of plan, wouldn’t you expect the stockholder list to have higher amounts of shares compared to the 10-Q/!0-K since you know the stockholder list had plan shares whose numbers were confirmed to be accurate?

      • lovetoburst@lemmy.whynotdrs.orgOP
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        11 months ago

        The DRS count incrementing 76.0m > 76.26m > 76.6m seems “ok, no ‘major’ f–kery” but still a bit on the low side. Which partly leads to questioning if we are overestimating retail investor purchasing power and how many are DRS-ing in that timeframe.

        Without access to the Computershare dashboard to see daily account and count changes, we’re left in the dark guessing. Like the +4.2m for 3/22/2023 versus +.5m on 10/29/2022. One theory is “they” load up DRS accounts, then many months later drain shares to confuse retail.

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          11 months ago

          It just doesn’t seem right does it that you go from 0 to 70,000,000 in a year, then nothing for the next year, especially the last 3 months when the price has been under $15, which is why we have all these theories and no one trust the number.

          But because everything is opaque, no one really knows. If ‘they’ did load up early on DRS counts, how do they know how many to un-DRS to keep it at a constant number, I guess with their algorithms and data from the bi-monthly buys from computer share plus brokers data it could be possible to know how much retail is DRSing.

          Actually there must data from bi-monthly buys for the last 3 months, has anyone calculated how many shares have been bought via this mechanism since we know the times when they are bought?

          • lovetoburst@lemmy.whynotdrs.orgOP
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            11 months ago

            Check out TheUltimator5’s posts on recurring buy fills: https://www.reddit.com/user/theultimator5/

            I think 6days1week had the Computershare recurring buy dates marked on a calendar, or maybe TheUltimator5 mentions in one of his posts.

            I used the most basic average $1.2 million buy every 2 weeks and used only $14 a share as an example. So 85,714 shares * 6 times a quarter = 514,284 shares from just recurring buys each quarter. Mileage will vary of course on GME share price at the time.

            I think the DTCC side can see all broker transactions.

            • Computershare’s bi-weekly recurring and daily purchases go through a broker.
            • Broker DRS transfers to Computershare notify the DTCC that a stock withdrawal is taking place.
            • I think I saw a redditor mention a rule/agreement that the DTCC can ask to see a transfer agent’s books at any time, too.
            • Chives@lemmy.whynotdrs.orgM
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              11 months ago

              Would you happen to have any info on that rule or agreement that you mentioned in last bullet? I’m not aware of something like that but would be cool to read about.

              What DTCC could do is go through the same channels to view (since Cede is a named owner) but that would have the same time restrictions Retail does. DTCC could also use simple deduction/subtraction to know how many non-Cede shares are on the issuer ledger at any time without inspecting through the transfer agent.

              • lovetoburst@lemmy.whynotdrs.orgOP
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                11 months ago

                Sorry, don’t have a source on that. Scrolled a million bananas on reddit this year and everything is a blur. :)

                I’m assuming DTCC just watches Computershare’s broker for Computershare’s transactions. Doubt they would ever contact Computershare and leave a trail.