• SoupBrick@yiffit.net
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    If you are wondering about health effects, my doctor said vaping weed is probably the worst way to consume weed. She said the oil/syrup in the vape really fucks up your lungs. At the end of the day, it is up to the user what they choose to do tho.

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      Vaping concentrates/extracts are very different from dry herb vaping.

      [Cannabis] extracts are not diluted in propylene glycol or glycerol like nicotine due to their hydrophobic properties. Instead, various forms of oils including vegetable oils, terpenes, and tocopheryl acetate (vitamin E acetate) have been reported as diluents. In most reported cases of EVALI, additional flavoring additives are also added to products.

      Although many of these diluent agents and flavorings have been “generally recognized as safe” for oral ingestion by the FDA, recent research shows that when heated to form an aerosol and inhaled, conditions including bronchitis, bronchiolitis, acute hypoxic respiratory distress, lipoid-associated pneumonia, and pneumonitis may result. [1]

      The terpenes used in vape carts to dilute and reintroduce flavor and aroma (which is lost in some extraction methods) also produces harmful byproducts when vaped. [2]

      Another problem with cheap vape pens and e-cigs is the cheap atomizers/coils used. There have been confirmed cases of these coils/atomizers leeching heavy metals into the vapor produced.[3]

      However, dry herb vapes do not have these problems. Dry herb vapes only vape the flower itself. Unless you are running the vape high enough to result in benzene (205–365°C / 401–689°F) [4], then the only thing to worry about with dry herb vapes the quality of their coils. Again, cheaper atomizers/coils have been known to leach heavy metals into the vapor.

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        I don’t know the last time I saw a cartridge that had vitamin e oil in it. Most cannabis products have moved away from using fillers. Usually the only additive, which is mainly used in distillate carts, are botanically derived terpenes. And BHO does not strip cannabis extracts of their aromatic compounds, that’s blatantly false and doesn’t even make sense scientifically. It’s hard to take advice from a study like this that can’t even get established facts correct.

        Edit: Nice edit above. Still not very convincing when looking at today’s cannabis market though

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          That part about BHO was a error on my account, not the study. It was meant in reference of pure THC or CBD extracts.

          Also important to note that the Vitamin E acetate was mostly a problem in black market products.

          But the terpenes they use as a diluent currently in legal/medical produced products result in harmful byproducts when vaped, as cited above.

          BHO products also produce benzene and methacrolein. [1] There have been concerns raised about lipids being deposited in the lungs from the cuticle wax present in BHO products, but that area of study is in its infancy.

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          Not only did I edit it, I adressed the mistake with you in my response… Did you think that was some sort of gotcha? Hahaha.

          You can believe whatever you want, but the evidence is there. Choosing not to believe it is definitely your free choice, but it doesn’t make you right or your beliefs true.

          Facts remain true regardless if you believe them. And the fact is that combusting bud and dabbing, and vaping most concentrates will result in benzene production.

          Live in denial if you want. I remember when most people denied the harmful effects of second-hand cigarette smoke. They were wrong.