Neither view says the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to ensure citizens have access to weapons of war to form militias, so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from
I am getting that from the 2nd amendment and the previous court cases. I am not sure where you are getting your theories from since what the NRA or GOA thinks, isn’t relevant compared to the Supreme court.
On March 30, 1939, the Supreme Court heard the case. Attorneys for the United States argued four points:
The NFA is intended as a revenue-collecting measure and so is within the authority of the Department of the Treasury.
The defendants transported the shotgun from Oklahoma to Arkansas and so used it in interstate commerce.
The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.
The “double barrel 12-gauge Stevens shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches in length, bearing identification number 76230,” was never used in any militia organization.
Point 3 is exactly where I got my statement from.
Are you not familiar with Miller, where weapons of war were the standard used? Based on Miller, a hunting weapon could be banned but an AR-15 could not since it is appropriate for an armed milita.
Stand your ground has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. It is a law about self-defense. It says I have the right to defend myself from harm and I don’t have to flee to do so.
Don’t confuse it with the 2nd amendment as the two have nothing to do with each other.
Stand your ground has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. It is a law about self-defense. It says I have the right to defend myself from harm and I don’t have to flee to do so.
That…is bizarre to me, but sure, I see your point.
The Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.
Right, and the collectivist view also required using a military-type weapon in a state-sanctioned militia. the fourth argument.
In any case, the 2nd Amendment ensured the efficacy of state militarities at the time when the U.S. didn’t have a standing army. We have a standing army now. Whatever the interpretation, it’s an outdated amendment.
4th isn’t requiring the weapon to be used in a militia. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. The court clearly explains that a sawed off shotgun was not used in a militia, as an explanation of why it’s not protected by the 2nd. Basically militias had never issued them before (later; it was brought up this was incorrect and sawed off shotguns were used in ww1). It doesn’t require the use in a militia but that it’s a weapon of war.
We’ve had a standing army for most of our history which is why we have the 2nd. It’s to keep the army in check. The founding fathers were very clear as to the purpose the 2nd.
I am getting that from the 2nd amendment and the previous court cases. I am not sure where you are getting your theories from since what the NRA or GOA thinks, isn’t relevant compared to the Supreme court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller
On March 30, 1939, the Supreme Court heard the case. Attorneys for the United States argued four points:
Point 3 is exactly where I got my statement from.
Are you not familiar with Miller, where weapons of war were the standard used? Based on Miller, a hunting weapon could be banned but an AR-15 could not since it is appropriate for an armed milita.
Stand your ground has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. It is a law about self-defense. It says I have the right to defend myself from harm and I don’t have to flee to do so.
Don’t confuse it with the 2nd amendment as the two have nothing to do with each other.
That…is bizarre to me, but sure, I see your point.
Right, and the collectivist view also required using a military-type weapon in a state-sanctioned militia. the fourth argument.
In any case, the 2nd Amendment ensured the efficacy of state militarities at the time when the U.S. didn’t have a standing army. We have a standing army now. Whatever the interpretation, it’s an outdated amendment.
4th isn’t requiring the weapon to be used in a militia. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. The court clearly explains that a sawed off shotgun was not used in a militia, as an explanation of why it’s not protected by the 2nd. Basically militias had never issued them before (later; it was brought up this was incorrect and sawed off shotguns were used in ww1). It doesn’t require the use in a militia but that it’s a weapon of war.
We’ve had a standing army for most of our history which is why we have the 2nd. It’s to keep the army in check. The founding fathers were very clear as to the purpose the 2nd.