It is not merely wealth distribution, but the fact that in capitalism that wealth immediately translates to power over society and people’s time in a more direct way than all previous systems. And sure, I am considering new systems, that is why I took exception to your framing of it not being “left vs. right”. Nearly, by definition, Right wing is preserving a current society or regressing back to a previous system, Left wing is, by definition, about change and new systems. Left wing isn’t necessarily being urban or having dyed hair or whatever conservatives try to obfuscate with. Being anti-elite is nearly always left wing and being pro-elite is nearly always right wing, right wingers try to obfuscate and channel that resentment with lies and bullshit. Like claiming a barista is an “elite” by having a bachelors degree and pronouns, despite making minimum wage, while a millionaire business owner is “working class” because he wears blue jeans and listens to country music in his pickup truck.
Okay, I wont start with a negative. Left is anti-billionaire controlling all of society and right is pro-billionaire controlling society. So saying left vs. right is a false dichotomy is helping billionaires sabotage society.
I agree with your statement. However, the left also includes billionaires just like the right includes the working class. Left vs. Right helps billionaires survive by keeping the left and the right fighting and the focus off them. There are two pieces two this puzzle. Once these two sides amongst the “common people” stop fighting and agree that no billionaires should be in any control, I am willing to bet a change can be made in a positive direction, regardless if you believe in philosophical ideals. We can both agree that billionaires are bad for a society due to the concentration of accumulated wealth and the ability to shape social policy through money.
There aren’t left billionaires in any significant sense. Liberals that are okay with LGBTQ people are centrists at best. Since Liberalism is inherently center-right and being left necessitates fighting against entrenched power structures, no George Soros or whatever billionaire is not “left” just because they aren’t extremely reactionary. Concentrations of wealth (and therefore power) is inherently right-wing by definition. You are just treating right-wing propaganda as fact.
Had I known I was talking to someone with a .ML, hexbear, or lemmygrad mindset I would have quit ages ago. Re-evaluate your political spectrums and definition of propaganda. I am arguing for unity against the source and you are proving my point again by accusing me of spreading “right-wing propaganda” even after finding common ground. If you can’t see passed the bullshit, you aren’t going to make any allies in a cause that matters by just being the other side of the magat coin bouncing around in an echo chamber. Good luck to you.
It is not merely wealth distribution, but the fact that in capitalism that wealth immediately translates to power over society and people’s time in a more direct way than all previous systems. And sure, I am considering new systems, that is why I took exception to your framing of it not being “left vs. right”. Nearly, by definition, Right wing is preserving a current society or regressing back to a previous system, Left wing is, by definition, about change and new systems. Left wing isn’t necessarily being urban or having dyed hair or whatever conservatives try to obfuscate with. Being anti-elite is nearly always left wing and being pro-elite is nearly always right wing, right wingers try to obfuscate and channel that resentment with lies and bullshit. Like claiming a barista is an “elite” by having a bachelors degree and pronouns, despite making minimum wage, while a millionaire business owner is “working class” because he wears blue jeans and listens to country music in his pickup truck.
Let’s just agree to disagree. It helps if you don’t start with a negative in every response and we’re going in circles.
Okay, I wont start with a negative. Left is anti-billionaire controlling all of society and right is pro-billionaire controlling society. So saying left vs. right is a false dichotomy is helping billionaires sabotage society.
I agree with your statement. However, the left also includes billionaires just like the right includes the working class. Left vs. Right helps billionaires survive by keeping the left and the right fighting and the focus off them. There are two pieces two this puzzle. Once these two sides amongst the “common people” stop fighting and agree that no billionaires should be in any control, I am willing to bet a change can be made in a positive direction, regardless if you believe in philosophical ideals. We can both agree that billionaires are bad for a society due to the concentration of accumulated wealth and the ability to shape social policy through money.
There aren’t left billionaires in any significant sense. Liberals that are okay with LGBTQ people are centrists at best. Since Liberalism is inherently center-right and being left necessitates fighting against entrenched power structures, no George Soros or whatever billionaire is not “left” just because they aren’t extremely reactionary. Concentrations of wealth (and therefore power) is inherently right-wing by definition. You are just treating right-wing propaganda as fact.
Had I known I was talking to someone with a .ML, hexbear, or lemmygrad mindset I would have quit ages ago. Re-evaluate your political spectrums and definition of propaganda. I am arguing for unity against the source and you are proving my point again by accusing me of spreading “right-wing propaganda” even after finding common ground. If you can’t see passed the bullshit, you aren’t going to make any allies in a cause that matters by just being the other side of the magat coin bouncing around in an echo chamber. Good luck to you.