AOC was never anything but a “progressive” liberal, and she completely sold out not long after getting into office. Have we already forgotten that she voted to crush a worker strike and voted against raising minimum wage? She’s a scab and a career politician working for the wealthy donor class.
Sure, but we must also remember not to pretend progressive liberals are enough, and make sure to engage in politics beyond the election cycle if we want any real power.
Bro that’s so not the same as fascism. I don’t approve at all of Israel’s actions, I hate Zionism, but I don’t believe it’s a given that Israel must be eradicated. I’m disappointed by AOC’s stance on Israel and Palestine, but I would not say it is fascism at all. If you think that advocating for an “immediate cease-fire and de-escalation” is anything like fascist Zionism then you need a reality check.
Supporting the existence of an ethno-state whose entire history is predicated on the removal of the native people through land stealing with this idea that they need living space (sound familiar?) sounds prey fascist to me. Israel’s whole existence places Palestinians below Israelis since it normalizes stealing land and houses of Palestinians for Israelis to take. Secondly, condemning Hamas is essentially condemning the right of the Palestinians to fight back against Israeli oppression which again places Israelis above Palestinians. To support humanity you would have to support the eradication of Israel and the return of land to the Palestinians whose land was stolen. AOC sounds like to me, someone who would take time to condemn the actions of Herschel Grynszpan following the Kristallnacht.
It sounds fascist, especially when you phrase it that way, but it is not. My philosophy is that everyone has a right to live where they are born. Is it fascist to desire anything less than the eradication of Canada? IMO working for realistic, incremental, achievable improvements over the status quo (for instance) is not fascist.
Every day we are settung precident for what we will and will not tolerate.
Not pulling the lever on socialist revolution keeps us on track for tyranical feudalism.
We can make it plausible or sleep in the graves corprate is ordering us to dig for ourselves.
Pardon the passions, folks who have already worked out their character sheet and place in the effort.
more than one might think.
and we don’t always need all diehard lefties to fight for Wages Hours and Conditions.
It’s good to turn up the signal as more people of all stripes become Unsure as instability and chaos build in our systems.
Anyway – something important to keep in mind is that a hard left turns are fought with gardens and tools and ‘barn’(etc) raisings even more than demonstrations or violence.
Labor movement, black panthers, and zapatistas are worth a quick study for grassroots practices.
admittedly, what the oligarchy and police state don’t want folks to learn about is Direct Action.
Dude, the rail worker strike would have been devastating. Inflation was already rough, supply chains were still fucked post COVID, railways shutting down for days would have fucked businesses, especially small and mom and pops, and restaurants, that were all struggling because of lockdowns.
And they still negotiated with the union and got them most of what the wanted.
How to say you’re a scab without saying you’re a scab: Won’t somebody please think of the economy?! And what happened soon after Congress defanged workers’ safety concerns? The East Palestine derailment catastrophe.
My restaurant never would have survived it. I went into debt to keep my workers paid during this time. I was in a group for small business owners in my city who were in the same boat as me. The economy would have been hurt, sure, but it wouldn’t screw over Walmart and Amazon. It would have screwed over us little guys just trying to get buy.
You can claim to be anti-oligarchy, but big business would have been fine. And a McDonald’s probably would have taken my spot and replaced my jobs with minimum wage drones.
So you’ve obviously never worked at a McDonald’s. It’s literally a mindless job. It’s fucking awful, and you literally just drone through your day. You’re not even trusted with cooking eggs, it’s all automated on timers.
At my restaurant, people get to be creative. dishes on the menu, specials. They get paid above industry standard. When I couldn’t have all my staff on during lockdown, I laid people to not work.
I’m not rich. I live in a one bedroom apartment. I’m still paying off debt I actúes keeping salaries going on workers who weren’t even working. I’m not the enemy. But whatever.
You are just proving my point. That you have no respect for people and prefer to call them drones. You lack basic the human sense of respect for your fellow man but this makes sense
I don’t claim to be merely anti-oligarchy; I’m socialist. And I don’t mean progressive liberal like AOC was or Sanders is, I mean actually socialist.
Anyway, maybe the strike really would have forced you to shutter, or maybe you could have gotten the PPP loans to limp through it. Or maybe in response to the strike, Congress could or would have increased the PPP loans to employers and/or COVID relief funds to families. We’ll never really know.
AOC was never anything but a “progressive” liberal, and she completely sold out not long after getting into office. Have we already forgotten that she voted to crush a worker strike and voted against raising minimum wage? She’s a scab and a career politician working for the wealthy donor class.
Until such a time as a socialist revolution seems plausible, I still prefer to see progressive liberals in power over conservatives.
Sure, but we must also remember not to pretend progressive liberals are enough, and make sure to engage in politics beyond the election cycle if we want any real power.
She is not progressive at all. AOC is a fascist. She has written, that she condemns Hamas and supports “Israel’s right to exist”. She is ideologically supporting far-right fascist settler colonialism. (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-condemns-hatred-antisemitism-palestinian-rcna119687) She inherently normalizes the stealing of land of the Palestinian people and condemns people fighting back to liberate themselves.
Bro that’s so not the same as fascism. I don’t approve at all of Israel’s actions, I hate Zionism, but I don’t believe it’s a given that Israel must be eradicated. I’m disappointed by AOC’s stance on Israel and Palestine, but I would not say it is fascism at all. If you think that advocating for an “immediate cease-fire and de-escalation” is anything like fascist Zionism then you need a reality check.
Supporting the existence of an ethno-state whose entire history is predicated on the removal of the native people through land stealing with this idea that they need living space (sound familiar?) sounds prey fascist to me. Israel’s whole existence places Palestinians below Israelis since it normalizes stealing land and houses of Palestinians for Israelis to take. Secondly, condemning Hamas is essentially condemning the right of the Palestinians to fight back against Israeli oppression which again places Israelis above Palestinians. To support humanity you would have to support the eradication of Israel and the return of land to the Palestinians whose land was stolen. AOC sounds like to me, someone who would take time to condemn the actions of Herschel Grynszpan following the Kristallnacht.
It sounds fascist, especially when you phrase it that way, but it is not. My philosophy is that everyone has a right to live where they are born. Is it fascist to desire anything less than the eradication of Canada? IMO working for realistic, incremental, achievable improvements over the status quo (for instance) is not fascist.
plausible?
u.s. is in near-freefall.
Every day we are settung precident for what we will and will not tolerate. Not pulling the lever on socialist revolution keeps us on track for tyranical feudalism.
We can make it plausible or sleep in the graves corprate is ordering us to dig for ourselves.
Pardon the passions, folks who have already worked out their character sheet and place in the effort.
I am always trying to shift people left. But there just aren’t enough of us yet.
thanks for your efforts!
more than one might think. and we don’t always need all diehard lefties to fight for Wages Hours and Conditions.
It’s good to turn up the signal as more people of all stripes become Unsure as instability and chaos build in our systems.
Anyway – something important to keep in mind is that a hard left turns are fought with gardens and tools and ‘barn’(etc) raisings even more than demonstrations or violence.
Labor movement, black panthers, and zapatistas are worth a quick study for grassroots practices.
admittedly, what the oligarchy and police state don’t want folks to learn about is Direct Action.
This so much. I’ll take anyone over a con
Dude, the rail worker strike would have been devastating. Inflation was already rough, supply chains were still fucked post COVID, railways shutting down for days would have fucked businesses, especially small and mom and pops, and restaurants, that were all struggling because of lockdowns.
And they still negotiated with the union and got them most of what the wanted.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute
How to say you’re a scab without saying you’re a scab: Won’t somebody please think of the economy?! And what happened soon after Congress defanged workers’ safety concerns? The East Palestine derailment catastrophe.
Citations Needed podcast:
My restaurant never would have survived it. I went into debt to keep my workers paid during this time. I was in a group for small business owners in my city who were in the same boat as me. The economy would have been hurt, sure, but it wouldn’t screw over Walmart and Amazon. It would have screwed over us little guys just trying to get buy.
You can claim to be anti-oligarchy, but big business would have been fine. And a McDonald’s probably would have taken my spot and replaced my jobs with minimum wage drones.
You calling minimum wage workers “drones” says everything anyone ever needed to know about you.
Small business people are every bit as insufferable as big business people
So you’ve obviously never worked at a McDonald’s. It’s literally a mindless job. It’s fucking awful, and you literally just drone through your day. You’re not even trusted with cooking eggs, it’s all automated on timers.
At my restaurant, people get to be creative. dishes on the menu, specials. They get paid above industry standard. When I couldn’t have all my staff on during lockdown, I laid people to not work.
I’m not rich. I live in a one bedroom apartment. I’m still paying off debt I actúes keeping salaries going on workers who weren’t even working. I’m not the enemy. But whatever.
You are just proving my point. That you have no respect for people and prefer to call them drones. You lack basic the human sense of respect for your fellow man but this makes sense
I don’t claim to be merely anti-oligarchy; I’m socialist. And I don’t mean progressive liberal like AOC was or Sanders is, I mean actually socialist.
Anyway, maybe the strike really would have forced you to shutter, or maybe you could have gotten the PPP loans to limp through it. Or maybe in response to the strike, Congress could or would have increased the PPP loans to employers and/or COVID relief funds to families. We’ll never really know.