If you believe that Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked, you will likely compare Putin to Hitler and will likely oppose President Trump’s peace negotiations with Russia. After all, if Putin’s invasion was unprovoked, a settlement would reward naked aggression and would be akin to Neville Chamberlain’s 1938 appeasement…
The only concrete assertion I see in this linked wall of text is:
…Which is false. And tremendously ironic in the current political climate in the EU/US.
The rest is just a whole bunch of whataboutism about how the US is a pompous, warmongering ass, which is true. But it’s no excuse.
if you ever chose to pay attention, you and the public will come to learn about the circumstances that led to this war at some point in the future. ever since vietnam and including iraq, these lessons from history has given us independently verifiable proof years after the conflict that the american government has lied to the public (and always will). history also teaches us that, that proof was always there since the beginning of all conflicts, but the public continually choses to ignore it because of the controlled narrative that people are unwittingly spoon-fed by the consent manufacturing machine that is our media.
if you chose to not pay attention, academics will study and students will learn of the warnings that came before & at the onset of ukraine conflict from people like ambassadors gfoeller, rundell, matlock or secretaries of defense mcnamara, gates, perry and from examples of propaganda from publications like the new york times. all of these are the examples from this article you’ve chosen to ignore in your steadfast adherence to a maga-like willful ignorance that has created this new fascist world that we’re all forced it live within.
Implying libs want to pay attention and not just get pointed at whatever foreigner they’re allowed to call inhuman filthy beasts this time around
Woah woah! They’re called orcs this time!
Not a whole lotta substance in all that text.
@eldavi@lemmy.ml
The NYT isn’t reliable anymore — they’ve been co-opted by the Intelligence apparatus. The NYT has been consistently wrong about this Ukraine situation from the start.
What I stated above is 100% factual if you care to check.
i can see now that the examples i pulled from the article implies that the nyt was trying to warn against the conflict; i’ve changed to wording of my comment to explain that they’ve been a mouthpiece for the government and my intention was to support the fact that proof of consent manufacturing has been around since the beginning like time, life, or newsweek magazines doing the same thing during vietnam.
Nuland was caught picking and choosing who’d be the next leader in Ua and people still say that the maidan was an organic popular movement. I have no hope for our civilisation.
@eldavi@lemmy.ml No worries — I’ve been studying the situation since the lead up to the Maidan. It was obvious, even then, for a critical thinker to see what was happening in terms of the US supporting the colour revolution openly via the ‘Open Society’ framework and USAid. We have to discard Commercial Main Stream Media for our news.
Following up on this, I, personally, believe that in the future we the public should insist that every Independent media source disclose it’s funding sources and advertisers, so one can objectively reason.
These links don’t support the thesis „ukraine is dominated by nazis", but rather there are issues with fascists, but on a small level.
Just a small problem of thousands of murdered eastern Ukrainians, and the Ukrainian state’s efforts to systematically suppress their political representation and erase their culture. Which is why the ICJ is investigating it for genocide.
They’re not Nazis unless they come from the Nationalsozialistische region of Deutschland. — Some German on the internet
Didn’t the ICJ already ruled they found no evidence of a genocide? And most researchers also reject the russian claims?
@brucethemoose@lemmy.world Yeah it’s too obvious to be the truth, right? /s
You know whataboutism is invoked when there isn’t any intelligence response to the truth. The new NeoLiberal construct, to deflect the truth. You’re a Nazi supporter. Unfortunately, we have many out west in Canada from the Ukrainian diaspora that came here during the Cold War. They had to be fervent anti-communists to be allowed in. Unfortunately for the rest of Canada, there are many Stepan Bandera monuments out west, wanna talk about that? Stepan Bandera was a Nazi, That’s a fact.