• HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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    3 days ago

    You remember that adversary lives in the same world. And has the same to lose as you. Sorta the point of MAD.

    If you don’t think that adversary fears the end of the world. Then you do not believe anything but total domination will ever appease them. So trying is just the ends of your world in exchange for their overthrowing everything they don’t believe in.

    If they do not care about ending the world. Any appeasement is just a delay to their ultimate goals and your death. If they care. They have the same nuclear armed adversary argument to not use their arms.

    Just bowing to the bully only reinforces the effectivity of them being a bully. And ensure the same threat will be used for anything they want.

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      My point is the only way to “defeat” them is to literally have boots in Moscow, if you try to do that then they they have no reason not to launch their nukes, they already lost. That’s the point of MAD, any attempt to fully defeat a nuclear armed nation means everyone loses, which is why Russia will never attack a nuclear armed nation.

      If you only push them back to whatever border you want, then they will still be just the other side of that border shooting at you.

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        Only way to “defeat” them.

        Nope, it is also to make taking Ukraine more expensive than they can afford.

        Something happening at a rapid rate. Russia was not very fiscally stable before the war. With western sanctions and the huge cost. It is rapidly collapsing. And likely to face its own internal leadership challenge eventually.