The YouTube channel “Maximum Fury” conducted a technical test of the new Cyberpunk add-on called “Phantom Liberty” on an older AMD hardware system, testing it separately on Linux and Windows 11. The Linux system, specifically the Fedora distribution called Nobara, performed significantly better, delivering 31% more frames compared to Windows 11.

The hardware used for testing included an Asrock B550 motherboard with an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 CPU and an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT GPU from the first RDNA generation, along with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM. The CPU, RAM, and GPU were overclocked, and the system utilized undervolting to save energy costs.

When testing the game at 1080p resolution with high textures, the Linux system achieved an average of 63.72 frames per second (fps), while Windows 11 managed only 48.55 fps. This suggests that the game should run noticeably smoother on the Linux system.

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    A 30% increase in performance just might get gamers to switch over to the new operating system.

    Hell that is the difference between a better graphics card for some people. It’s like getting a free overclock, just for going outside your comfort zone.

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      This is a rare and extreme case, which is probably caused by some sort of fluke in the testing method or due to a bug in the game that Linux is handling better. Usually gaming on Linux is like ~5-10% slower for GPU-bound games.

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        Usually gaming on Linux is like ~5-10% slower for GPU-bound games.

        Or faster. Depends heavily on the game. Some things wine + dxvk does better.

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        This is probably more common than you’d think, at least in my anecdotal experience. Converting directx commands to vulkan commands, especially for AMD GPUs, can result in better and more consistent performance on Linux.

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          Do you have any numbers or examples of games? I know that it’s generally the case that DX9 games often have greater performance through DXVK, but DX11 and DX12 should usually be a little bit slower. Also, CPU-bound games are often faster on Linux in my experience, but it’s rare for games to be CPU-bound (MMOs etc).

          Additionally, OpenGL and Vulkan should be faster on Linux (Native or WINE+OpenGL/Vulkan), but I don’t have as much experience with them.

          Edit: I found this video which has a few standout games where Linux pulls ahead even on DX11/DX12. Hopefully that’s a sign of future trends.

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      This is just one game with one particular graphics card, this might not be the same for example with nvidia cards.

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      linux users still coping

      nobody likes linux yall are chatting in an echo chamber. lemmy feels like a comp sci major college party lol

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    It’s a well known fact that every second major release of Windows is crap.

    • Windows 95 was not the best.
    • Windows 95OSR2 was the one you wanted.
    • Windows 98 sucked.
    • Windows 98 2nd ed. worked as the former should have.
    • Windows 2000 was great but had no support for running games.
    • XP solved that and made people leave Windows 98 (I deliberately left out the clusterf… Windows ME.).
    • Windows Vista sucked balls.
    • Windows 7 was what Vista should have been.
    • Windows 8? Metro on phones, yes! On desktop? No no no.
    • Windows 10 got Microsoft back on track again.

    I thought the new upgrade scheme (2 editions per year) Microsoft introduced with Windows 10 would be like “every second release will suck” but it started to look like Microsoft were able to break the curse…

    …and then Windows 11 happened.

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      I ran 2000 back in the day and didn’t really have any problems with it. IMO it breaks the pattern somewhat. XP was better, of course, but 2000 was a good OS.

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    Windows 11 is trash. Microsoft kept boasting it was “faster” than 10, but it is (unsurprisingly?) heavy in some weird areas, including a less snappy start menu, more telemetry, invasive integration with their software, you name it. Tried one machine in my collection to try it via an upgrade (a Microsoft Surface Pro 6), and the performance was so bad I ended up going back to Windows 10. Multi-second lag just to get to the program shortcuts is a really bad sign.

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      Ha that hit hard. This is basically the system I just upgraded to. Well at least it’ll run the game well.

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      There isn’t a single piece of software that I use that makes me think I should upgrade my 5600. Not a single game fully utilizes it (on 1440p res)

      Older hardware is fine.

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    It is just unfortunate that it does not run on Nvidia hardware. The benchmark runs if you disable all RTX features, but it crashes on a new game before you even have full control of the character.

    Looking at protondb it looks like all people with Nvidia have issues since the 2.0 update. I hope there will be some fix soon. I don’t want to replace the GPU yet it would be a waste (2080 Super).

    For now I am playing it on my Steam Deck instead.

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      I don’t know what you’re talking about, It run very well on my Nvidia GPU on Linux before and after the patch and DLC.

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      No issues here, more than 20 hours on Linux on a 3080 latest drivers, wayland, , dlss, ray tracing or not, works great.

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        Can you do ray tracing on Linux? I played today a bit and the option was grayed out. I’m on X though, using official drivers.

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          Yup, you just gotta set the right environment variables. Can’t remember them off the top of my head though, “NVAPI” is part of one of them I think. Don’t have an nvidia gpu anymore, though, switched to AMD about two months back.

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            Just came back to say it freaken worked. Cyberpunk on linux looks and runs just as well as it does on windows. I don’t think I need to dual boot anymore…

            export PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=0
            export PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1
            export VKD3D_CONFIG="dxr,dxr11"
            export PROTON_ENABLE_NGX_UPDATER=1
            

            In case anyone else is wondering…

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    definitely believable

    16gb ddr3 ram

    ten year old i5

    rx580 8gb

    arch linux gnome desktop

    standard prebuilt dell pc

    have two of these machines built and operating in the house both are able to play modern games including Hogwarts Legacy low settings at 60fps no ray tracing

    some games run fine with medium or high

    some games such as Hogwarts Legacy and Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered require a per game specialized wine wrapper script that is usually already made by an awesome entity unless you go through the steam launcher and then it just plays like a steam deck

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck

    “Steam Deck runs SteamOS version 3, based on the Arch Linux operating system. While SteamOS had been previously developed for Steam Machines using Debian Linux, Valve stated that they wanted to use a rolling upgrade approach for the Deck’s system software, a function Debian was not designed for but was a feature of Arch Linux. An application programming interface (API) specific for the Steam Deck is available to game developers, allowing a game to specify certain settings if it is being run on a Steam Deck compared to a normal computer. Within the Steam storefront, developers can populate a special file depot for their game with lower-resolution textures and other reduced elements to allow their game to perform better on the Steam Deck; Steam automatically detects and downloads the appropriate files for the system (whether on a computer or Steam Deck) when the user installs the game”

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    There’s no such thing as magic. Some computation is absolutely getting skipped.

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      Sure, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing; if the Linux version is missing useful output that would be bad, but if the DX to Vulkan translation ironed out a performance regression, or the scheduler works better in this scenario, or filesystem access had issues with NTFS it could also cause performance differences in Linux favour.

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        I guess I agree, but because the title felt a lot like a youtube channel clickbait promo, I bit. In an opposite way.

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      Yeah, that’s usually called optimization ;⁠-⁠)

      Also don’t know how much stuff runs in the background on W11, maybe there is now more stuff needing memory and CPU time

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          Was meant with tongue in cheek - at least that was meant with the smiley

          But still, could very much think of some hungry background processes. I’m just guessing, as I don’t run Win11 anywhere